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Pete Rose, The St. Louis Cardinals and the Need for Consistent MLB Ethics Policies

The other is the news that the St. Rose bet on baseball, thus violating a cardinal, excuse the pun, rule of big league baseball. By betting on baseball, although never against his team, Rose never sought an unfair advantage over another team or player or endangered his or anybody else’s health or safety. This is true even if the Astros are a bad team in the other league.

It is important that baseball send a clear message, not simply a punitive one to the Cardinals, but one that makes it apparent that high tech cheating will not be tolerated. Lastly, from a baseball angle, although what the Cardinals did was not legal or kosher, the impact of this on play on the field is not clear. There are several reasons for this.

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These incidents might be lumped together under the collective notion of ethics violations or breaking the rules, but there are some real differences in both the actions and the likely consequences. Pete Rose as a player and manager was gruff, a little sleazy and linked to disreputable characters from the gambling world. Louis Cardinals had hacked into the Houston Astros internal network, giving them access to private information and communication between Astro front office personnel.. It is an unequivocal blemish on a franchise that, spin and self-righteousness notwithstanding, is one of the premier teams of the last 10-15 years.

The newest revelations about Pete Rose betting on baseball, something that had long been suspected is a sad coda to a sad story about one of baseball’s all time greats. This information came to light long after 1951 making it impossible for baseball to do anything about it. It would confirm baseball’s timidity, open the door to further cheating and demonstrate again that in the commissioner’s office too frequently everything is personal.

The Cardinal case is different than the Giants case because baseball is in a position to do something about it while the relevant actors are still with the team and different from the Wills case because it involves more than one person. The technical term for trying to gain an advantage by breaking the rules is cheating.

There have been cases of teams cheating in the past. The St. More recently, in 1981, Seattle Mariners manager Maury Wills extended the batter’s box closer to home plate so his players would have an easier time hitting late breaking curve balls. Moreover, it was part of an effort to gain an advantage over the Astros by breaking the rules. The same cannot be said about the Cardinals actions. To downplay the problem, let the Cardinals handle it internally or hope that it goes away, the directions in which the issue looks to be going now, would be a big mistake. Rose’s efforts to finally make it to the Hall of Fame had been getting some traction earlier in the year, but that has changed now. This also is the first case of this kind in baseball so MLB policies on computer related cheating is still largely undefined. The new information regarding Pete Rose is only of the ethics scandals that has hit baseball in the last few weeks. Moreover, it is not yet clear how widespread the knowledge of this hacking was within the Cardinal system. Hacking into another companies computer system is, according to many, illegal. Louis Cardinals, on the other hand, are the best organization in baseball. The people involved in the Cardinal hacking scandal are peripheral front office personnel, rather than star players. We know this because the media reminds us of this all the time and because their manager wrote a book called “The Matheny Manifesto: A Young Manager’s Old-School Views on Success in Sports and Life.” I have not read the book but am looking forward to the chapter on how to successfully lose in the post-season to teams that you had been expected to beat.

While this punishment is reasonable given how clear these rules are, there is another side to it. This, of course, is also true of what Rose did.

There is, however, another reason. Wills was caught, received a modest fine and suspension and, a few weeks later, was fired by the Mariners.

It is not yet clear what consequences the Cardinals will face for this offense, but the chances of anybody getting banned from baseball for life is very small. In 1951 the New York Giants allegedly had a system of stealing signs that contributed to their great comeback forcing a playoff against the Brooklyn Dodgers and leading to Bobby Thomson’s famous home run, that may also have been the result of stealing signs. Every player knows that this is unequivocally forbidden in the baseball. Rose has been punished for this with lifetime ban from baseball that includes keeping him out of the Hall of Fame despite his extraordinary career and his position as baseball’s all time hit leader

Report: Pete Rose bet on baseball while he was a player

According to ESPN, the incriminating documents are copies of pages from a notebook that were seized in 1989 during a raid of one of Rose’s associates, about two months after Baseball Commissioner Bart Giamatti exiled Rose from baseball. But he has been banished from the sport – and the Hall of Fame – as punishment for his gambling.

As recently as April 23 of this year, Rose denied that he ever bet on baseball as a player, according to CBSSports.com. To be sure, I’m eager to sit down with [MLB Commissioner Rob] Manfred to address my entire history – the good and the bad -and my long personal journey since baseball. All Rights Reserved. I need to maintain that. “Since we submitted the application earlier this year, we committed to MLB that we would not comment on specific matters relating to reinstatement. “Someone, at some period of time, will feel it in their heart to give me a second chance. The raid stemmed from a mail fraud investigation and was not related to Rose’s gambling, ESPN reported.

Rose is baseball’s all-time major league hits leader.

. Ray Genco, Rose’s attorney, released the following statement from Rose to CBSSports.com:

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Pete Rose bet on baseball games while he was a player for the Cincinnati Reds, according to documents obtained by ESPN, a report that would contradict Rose’s claim that he only gambled on baseball as a manager.

© 2015 CBS Interactive Inc. I might be six feet under, but that’s what you have to live with.”

According to the notebook obtained by ESPN, Rose bet extensively on multiple sports from March to July 1986, when he was both a player and manager for the Reds.

When asked last year by CBS’ Lee Cowan if he feels he will ever get into the Hall of Fame, Rose said yes. That meeting likely will come sometime after the All-Star break.”

“I don’t know if I’m going to live to see it,” Rose said

Pete Rose: I Bet On Reds “Every Night”

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

“I want to thank baseball for giving the permission to do this,” he said about the exhibit. He couldn’t say whether he thought the current exhibit represented a softening of baseball’s stance regarding his ban.

Displayed at the news conference were the bat Rose used and the ball he hit when he stroked hit 4,192 to pass Ty Cobb and set the career hit record.

Several Rose-related artifacts have been on display at the Reds Hall of Fame since it debuted in 2004, a year after Great American Ball Park opened. “If they retired my number here, don’t you think the fans would be elated?

© 2007 CBS Interactive Inc. MLB did include him in two events — 1999′s All-Century Team and 2002′s 30 Memorable Moments — that were sponsored by a credit card company. I was wrong.”

Wednesday’s revelation of nightly wagering comes after Rose said his fans would likely be “elated” if Major League Baseball reinstated him after his 18 years of exile.

Because of the ban, Rose is not allowed to be involved in most on-field activities, which has prevented the Reds from retiring his uniform No. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. His total is reflected at the Reds’ Hall in a three-story high wall of baseballs — one for each hit.

“Everything should be for the fans,” Rose said Tuesday before a preview party celebrating Saturday’s opening of a special exhibit in his honor at the Cincinnati Reds Hall of Fame. “They wouldn’t let me be on the field for the last game here (at Cinergy Field, the Reds’ previous home). In his autobiography, published in 2004, Rose revealed that he wagered many times a week while managing. Today, he admitted his gambling addiction was daily.

Pete Rose told ESPN Wednesday that he bet on the Reds “every night” while he was manager of the team in the late 1980s.

“I bet on my team every night,” he told ESPN’s Dan Patrick. 14. In 1989, Rose, baseball’s all-time hit leader, accepted a lifetime ban from baseball for gambling, only to spend the next 15 years heatedly denying — at every opportunity — he bet on game he played with equal passion.

The confession wasn’t Rose’s first, reports CBS News chief investigative correspondent Armen Keteyian. “I didn’t bet on my team four nights a week. That’s a lot of balls,” said Rose, who spent almost three more seasons as Cincinnati’s manager before the league banned him in 1989 for betting on baseball.. All Rights Reserved. They wouldn’t let me go to the last game in Philadelphia (at Veterans Stadium) either.”

“You want to check and make sure there’s no cork in that bat?” he joked.

“They could send a hit man after me, and I would still be out there trying to sell baseball. The new exhibit includes more that 300 items from the career of Rose, who finished playing in 1986 with an all-time high 4,256 hits. My name’s synonymous with baseball.”

While much of his memorabilia has found its way into baseball’s Hall of Fame, Rose remains on the outside, looking in — ineligible for induction into Cooperstown or any activities involving the game, adds Keteyian.

“I’m just happy having three stories of balls